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	<title>Comments on: How to build a bicycle: Salsa Casseroll</title>
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		<title>By: Shibby</title>
		<link>http://www.madsnail.net/blog/2009/01/01/how-to-build-a-bicycle-salsa-casseroll/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Shibby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 22:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic site. You have inspired me to try this myself! I have bought a Surly LHT frameset and hope to build the bike ready for a John O Groats to Lands end ride in July 2012, on behalf of the Crohns society. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic site. You have inspired me to try this myself! I have bought a Surly LHT frameset and hope to build the bike ready for a John O Groats to Lands end ride in July 2012, on behalf of the Crohns society. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: bum guy</title>
		<link>http://www.madsnail.net/blog/2009/01/01/how-to-build-a-bicycle-salsa-casseroll/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>bum guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 07:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is quite cool how you made your own bike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is quite cool how you made your own bike</p>
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		<title>By: Madsnail</title>
		<link>http://www.madsnail.net/blog/2009/01/01/how-to-build-a-bicycle-salsa-casseroll/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Madsnail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd, the complete list of parts is at the end of this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, the complete list of parts is at the end of this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.madsnail.net/blog/2009/01/01/how-to-build-a-bicycle-salsa-casseroll/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 20:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M,

The reason I found this website is I was continuing to review the Salsa Casseroll and have been reading everything about it.  It's the perfect solution for me.  Your post came up in a Google search.  I was at a local bike shop last night test driving one when I discovered the 2010 and soon 2011 models are using lower grade components.  The ride further solidified my choice in bike and if I could find a used 2009, I'd probably buy it.  But your post has made me realize that the best solution for me is to build it myself.  

I have ordered a quality maintenance and repair book.  Since purchasing a 2011 frame would basically be like having the "same" frame as the one shown above in your masterpiece,  is it asking to much for you to post your detailed parts list?  It would be a huge help as I could then work from a baseline to accommodate any changes in framing size and for my own custom preferences.  I know it's a lot (and was a long time ago -- you may not have this information anymore) but I promise to post my list someday when I finish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M,</p>
<p>The reason I found this website is I was continuing to review the Salsa Casseroll and have been reading everything about it.  It&#8217;s the perfect solution for me.  Your post came up in a Google search.  I was at a local bike shop last night test driving one when I discovered the 2010 and soon 2011 models are using lower grade components.  The ride further solidified my choice in bike and if I could find a used 2009, I&#8217;d probably buy it.  But your post has made me realize that the best solution for me is to build it myself.  </p>
<p>I have ordered a quality maintenance and repair book.  Since purchasing a 2011 frame would basically be like having the &#8220;same&#8221; frame as the one shown above in your masterpiece,  is it asking to much for you to post your detailed parts list?  It would be a huge help as I could then work from a baseline to accommodate any changes in framing size and for my own custom preferences.  I know it&#8217;s a lot (and was a long time ago &#8212; you may not have this information anymore) but I promise to post my list someday when I finish.</p>
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		<title>By: Madsnail</title>
		<link>http://www.madsnail.net/blog/2009/01/01/how-to-build-a-bicycle-salsa-casseroll/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Madsnail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 08:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Todd, thanks for your comment! I'm always happy to hear people find the post helpful!

I think you can pretty much always find the specifications of a new frame on the internet nowadays. The Salsa website has got all information on tube angles, steer tube and seat post and bottom bracket diameters, fender clearance, etc. All you need to know is there.

Finding the parts that match is not all that difficult, it just requires a lot of time to check the specs in details on the internet for the parts that you want to buy. Also, it's usually no problem for major parts like cranks, brake levers, etc., but some of the smaller parts are less obvious when you do it for the first time. I had to scratch my head for a while to figure out exactly which cables I needed (they're different for braking and shifting) as well as which ferrules I needed.
This is a very time-consuming task, and you really have to see it as a project and be motivated to spend the time and do it right. Forums like bike-forums.net also have a lot of information.

I found the whole experience of researching, buying parts and building the bike particularly rewarding personally.

I hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Todd, thanks for your comment! I&#8217;m always happy to hear people find the post helpful!</p>
<p>I think you can pretty much always find the specifications of a new frame on the internet nowadays. The Salsa website has got all information on tube angles, steer tube and seat post and bottom bracket diameters, fender clearance, etc. All you need to know is there.</p>
<p>Finding the parts that match is not all that difficult, it just requires a lot of time to check the specs in details on the internet for the parts that you want to buy. Also, it&#8217;s usually no problem for major parts like cranks, brake levers, etc., but some of the smaller parts are less obvious when you do it for the first time. I had to scratch my head for a while to figure out exactly which cables I needed (they&#8217;re different for braking and shifting) as well as which ferrules I needed.<br />
This is a very time-consuming task, and you really have to see it as a project and be motivated to spend the time and do it right. Forums like bike-forums.net also have a lot of information.</p>
<p>I found the whole experience of researching, buying parts and building the bike particularly rewarding personally.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.madsnail.net/blog/2009/01/01/how-to-build-a-bicycle-salsa-casseroll/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 06:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This rocks!  You did a fantastic job documenting it.  

One thing that would be incredibly valuable to me before attempting to replicate your work is knowing how you chose the parts to use?  I think many of us could order a bike frame and use your documentation, experience, and suggestions above and give this a good attempt (and always take it to a bike shop if we got stuck) but knowing which parts to use and knowing the appropriate ones that match a particular frame would be much more of a challenge.  I am a novice and I'm wondering where you got your information in determining the allowable set of parts.  Any help you can provide may just be the motivating factor I need to do it myself.  Does the frame come with compatible part sepcs?  It's always so much more enjoyed and appreciated when you do it yourself... and this post has given me inspiration.

Thanks in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This rocks!  You did a fantastic job documenting it.  </p>
<p>One thing that would be incredibly valuable to me before attempting to replicate your work is knowing how you chose the parts to use?  I think many of us could order a bike frame and use your documentation, experience, and suggestions above and give this a good attempt (and always take it to a bike shop if we got stuck) but knowing which parts to use and knowing the appropriate ones that match a particular frame would be much more of a challenge.  I am a novice and I&#8217;m wondering where you got your information in determining the allowable set of parts.  Any help you can provide may just be the motivating factor I need to do it myself.  Does the frame come with compatible part sepcs?  It&#8217;s always so much more enjoyed and appreciated when you do it yourself&#8230; and this post has given me inspiration.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.madsnail.net/blog/2009/01/01/how-to-build-a-bicycle-salsa-casseroll/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this is a fantastic page - a wealth of info. 

I'm very seriously doing the same and using this this page as my Casseroll 'how to' guide. I rode one of these the other day from Mosquito bikes in London and the ride was so smooth and enjoyable - a real pleasure. I'm now also really keen on building one up like this (a great escape from the desk/computer). One question (I know it's very vague); how long does a build like this take? Having never built a bike before I have no idea whether its a day job or could quite easily expand exponentially into weeks....

Cheers, Ash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this is a fantastic page - a wealth of info. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m very seriously doing the same and using this this page as my Casseroll &#8216;how to&#8217; guide. I rode one of these the other day from Mosquito bikes in London and the ride was so smooth and enjoyable - a real pleasure. I&#8217;m now also really keen on building one up like this (a great escape from the desk/computer). One question (I know it&#8217;s very vague); how long does a build like this take? Having never built a bike before I have no idea whether its a day job or could quite easily expand exponentially into weeks&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers, Ash.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much! I'm looking forward to this and hope it turns out nearly as nice as your build.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much! I&#8217;m looking forward to this and hope it turns out nearly as nice as your build.</p>
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		<title>By: Madsnail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madsnail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave, I'm 178 cm (which is between 5ft8 and 5ft9 I reckon) but with an inseam of 89 cm. With my height and inseam I can normally go for anything between 55-57cm for racing bikes.
I went for the 51 Casseroll (equivalent 54 other brands) because my previous road bike, a 56 or 57 always felt a bit too big, especially on long rides, and I wanted to try if it would solve some neck/shoulder problems I've had.
I'm perfectly happy with the 51 Casseroll, though I'm quite sure the 54 would fit too.
With your inseam and height, I'd go for the 51.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave, I&#8217;m 178 cm (which is between 5ft8 and 5ft9 I reckon) but with an inseam of 89 cm. With my height and inseam I can normally go for anything between 55-57cm for racing bikes.<br />
I went for the 51 Casseroll (equivalent 54 other brands) because my previous road bike, a 56 or 57 always felt a bit too big, especially on long rides, and I wanted to try if it would solve some neck/shoulder problems I&#8217;ve had.<br />
I&#8217;m perfectly happy with the 51 Casseroll, though I&#8217;m quite sure the 54 would fit too.<br />
With your inseam and height, I&#8217;d go for the 51.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - I guess I am a year late, but I am planning to do the same type of build with a Casserroll frame. I was just wondering how tall you are and what sort of inseam do you have? I am also looking at a 51 cm stock frame and I am 5 ft 8 in with a 33 in (85 cm) inseam, so I wasn't sure if this size or a 53 would work. The 51 geometry seems to match my road bike top tube length, but seems a little more compact. Any advice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi - I guess I am a year late, but I am planning to do the same type of build with a Casserroll frame. I was just wondering how tall you are and what sort of inseam do you have? I am also looking at a 51 cm stock frame and I am 5 ft 8 in with a 33 in (85 cm) inseam, so I wasn&#8217;t sure if this size or a 53 would work. The 51 geometry seems to match my road bike top tube length, but seems a little more compact. Any advice?</p>
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